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Joined: Jan 2020 | I just had my topic locked at the request of some one trolling me? The moderation on these forums is completely unacceptable. If larian is not capable of accepting criticism on this game it will never succeed. Going to link my video here again so people can see Why I think BG3 sucks currently. https:/ I decided to give the game another shot today after leveling my charcters up and the game is just as bad... makes no difference here is the fight I did today.. it was painfull and I wanted it to end. |
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Joined: Oct 2020 Location: Ukraine | You're just scolding early access for the potential best RPG of all time. Provide constructive criticism, not advertise your YouTube channel. Can you briefly say what exactly you don't like? Minthara is the best character and she NEEDS to be recruitable if you side with the grove! |
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Joined: Jan 2020 | I did a 30 minute video and have 4 large posts on these forms? I can't even respond to you or the mods are going to lock this again.. Unreal. Last edited by Emulate; 21/10/20 07:26 PM. |
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Joined: Oct 2020 Location: Ukraine | Originally Posted by Emulate I did a 30 minute video and have 4 large posts on these forms? I can't even respond to you or the mods are going to lock this again.. Unreal. OK, please discard the links to your topics where the claims to the game are detailed in text form Minthara is the best character and she NEEDS to be recruitable if you side with the grove! |
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Warlocke veteran Joined: Jan 2018 | I watched a few minutes at a random point of your video. You complained about the inability to see your characters’s equipped gear and inventories at the same time (you can), and having too low health when you hadn’t even leveled them up. They had the indicator that they had leveled up, but you didn’t click it. Your video kind of sucks. XD Last edited by Warlocke; 21/10/20 07:39 PM. |
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Joined: Oct 2020 Location: Ukraine | Originally Posted by Emulate I have looked, you have created two constructive themes, and I think that this will be taken into account by the developers. I would disagree with you about the crafting system, it was interesting in the Inquisition, but here this mechanic will be superfluous. Many of the things you are talking about are the problems of Early Access, it exists for this, so that players make their wishes for improvement, look for bugs, and so on. I understand that you have created several more topics besides these with advertising your video on YouTube, this does not make sense, all the feedback is read anyway. Your main threads have not been deleted, they are being discussed, so I see no reason to complain about the moderators Minthara is the best character and she NEEDS to be recruitable if you side with the grove! |
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Joined: Mar 2020 | What @warlocke said. The leveling up screen is the same as DOS2 and BG1 & 2 but you haven't used it. You also haven't found a torch. Admittedly, it's harder to figure out the light cantrip, torch or low light vision than to figure out how to level up but you also seem not have understood that feature of the game. Not understanding the game mechanics takes away from your credibility as a critic and the repeated insults you delivered without provocation did even more to harm your reputation as a video video game critic. |
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Joined: Jan 2020 | Link the posts I have I have linked my you tube video in that isn't locked by poor moderation if you claim I am spamming... Because it seems in these forms baseless accusations go a long way. I haven't found a need for a torch yet in this game, and leveling up my characters or not doesn't affect the fundamental completely broken flaws I found with this game that are so rooted in the overall system it has to be completely redone. Last edited by Emulate; 21/10/20 07:44 PM. |
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Joined: Oct 2020 | Anyone who sits down and makes an almost half hour long video to complain about an unfinished game that is clearly marketed as such, in Early Access, in an Alpha Build-- complain about how it sucks and is going to fail -- and all of the points against it are mostly Player Error things.. lmao. Please go outside. "Poor moderation" when you posted a video that goes against the spirit of these forums for feedback and improvement, not "I played for 10 hours and this game sucks and will never succeed and here's why" and then proceeding to list things that are literally because of the early stages of development is not a good look, bro. "Fundamentally flawed mechanics" what are you, an expert game developer? Do you know the depth of the work that has to go into the making and polishing of a game? Larian didn't HAVE to release this game for early access, but they did, because they specifically wanted the community's feedback on how to improve things. Most of the negatives on your lists are literally just things that will get fixed later, but you should be impressed that they work at all. An absolutely immense amount of work went in to getting the first chapter of this game to be playable for us to explore and you're white boy mad that it isn't release day perfect. Get out, lmao. |
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Joined: Sep 2017 | Your behaviour towards others is what gets you in moderation trouble, Emulate. Reel that in and you'll be perfectly fine. Your previous thread was not locked because of its message, but your behaviour and antagonising attitude towards others. Don't repeat history. |
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Joined: Mar 2020 | The torch would correct the "can't see my characters problem" and leveling up would correct the hit points problems. Perhaps these 'game problems' are actually your misunderstanding of the mechanics? |
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Joined: Jan 2020 | You locked the thread over some one CLEARLY trolling me saying if I didn't like looking over walls I should control my camera better, then him demanding that you lock my thread over me responding to him in a satirical fashion... And you did it.. I feel like there isn't much hope on these forums for anyone who doesn't fall in line, that's the vibes I'm getting here. |
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Joined: Oct 2020 | Originally Posted by Emulate Link the posts I have I have linked my you tube video in that isn't locked by poor moderation if you claim I am spamming... Because it seems in these forms baseless accusations go a long way. I haven't found a need for a torch yet in this game, and leveling up my characters or not doesn't affect the fundamental completely broken flaws I found with this game that are so rooted in the overall system it has to be completely redone. Well it isn't going to be so you better learn to live with it or find something else to prattle on about for a 30 minute video nobody will watch. |
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Joined: Jan 2020 | You don't need HP in this game, you can just chain eat food, every character has like infinite HP basically tanking just involved eating lots of food that's why I made it half way through the game not even leveling up... I'm trying to explain how broken things actually are its very obvious. to be honest I could probably make it through the whole game with out leveling up there is only one fight I've had problems with so far, and there are ways to explot every fight in a larian game, its the down side to how open ended their mechanics can be at times, with the current pathing bugs I could probably do every fight in the game with out even getting hit. Last edited by Emulate; 21/10/20 07:52 PM. |
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Jazhara202 journeyman Joined: Oct 2020 | Well you do need HP due to the fact you can still get 1 shotted or 2 from some tough mobs with around 40 hp. I agree tho Food shouldnt heal at all |
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Joined: Sep 2017 | You can just chain-rest, too. No need for food. That's also well-documented feedback. |
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Joined: Jan 2020 | You can't chain rest while in combat though you can however chain eat food, I'm pretty sure you cant chain rest in combat anyways haven't tried it yet. |
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Joined: Oct 2020 Location: Rugby, UK | You lose HP and die if the enemy hits you with an attack that reduces you to 0 or less, and then you fail three Death saves. HP are absolutely important, and trying to eat food to heal when you are lying unconscious and dying is not going to work. Nor is eating food that restores 1-6 hp likely to be a good strategy when the enemy are hitting you for 2-12. Have you actually played the D&D game before, because I am curious as to how anyone would declare that HP and levelling up were not important. |
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Jazhara202 journeyman Joined: Oct 2020 | I have tried and you cannot =) |
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Joined: Jan 2020 | if you stack your characters on top of each other you can just revive your team mates after they die if you have more team mates than the enemy has you win, how is that a functioning mechanic or even good game design picking your same team mate off the ground 50x in a single fight? it's that how DND works? Last edited by Emulate; 21/10/20 07:57 PM. |
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Joined: Oct 2020 | Originally Posted by Emulate if you stack your characters on top of each other you can just revive your team mates after they die if you have more team mates than the enemy has you win, how is that a functioning mechanic? So that every alchemist's fire, fire arrow and acid arrow hit your whole party? Briliant strategy! |
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Joined: Oct 2020 | I cant figure out what this dude is doing in his game! |
I certainly can't just stack my party on top of each other and chain food/help, especially since the combat AI right now goes Joined: Oct 2020 Location: Rugby, UK
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Joined: Oct 2020 Location: Rugby, UK | Originally Posted by Emulate if you stack your characters on top of each other you can just revive your team mates after they die if you have more team mates than the enemy has you win, how is that a functioning mechanic or even good game design picking your same team mate off the ground 50x in a single fight? it's that how DND works? I'm beginning to see why you could not cope with the game. |
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Sigi98 addict Joined: Oct 2020 | Originally Posted by Emulate You don't need HP in this game, you can just chain eat food, every character has like infinite HP basically tanking just involved eating lots of food that's why I made it half way through the game not even leveling up... I'm trying to explain how broken things actually are its very obvious. good luck chain eating food when you're one-shotted because you have 10 HP. Last edited by Sigi98; 21/10/20 08:06 PM. |
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Joined: Oct 2020 Location: Ukraine | You cannot eat more than one or two food per turn, and it restores too little health. You haven't gotten to hard battles yet, where you have to load and replay Minthara is the best character and she NEEDS to be recruitable if you side with the grove! |
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Joined: Oct 2020 | I am only half way through your video. I do agree with Fog of war. However, a lot of the other things why you hate it I think will be addressed. Perhaps you should wait for a few updates and come back each time. The one thing I hope they clean up a lot is the amount of environment damage, enemy throwables, and special arrows. 300g from a vendor for a fire arrow but goblins run around with 3 4... just seem bad. Also... you have to manual level up your characters. They have a plus sign on their portraits. Also... you need to read up on 5e for DnD. Some of the things you hate about this game is not understand DnD Last edited by Mezbarrena; 21/10/20 08:22 PM. |
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Warlocke veteran Joined: Jan 2018 | You can beat lots of (probably even most) games in absurd, ineffective and time-consuming ways if you are absolutely committed to not learning how to play or having fun. Sorry, but that’s a you problem, not a BG3 problem. Last edited by Warlocke; 21/10/20 08:52 PM. |
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Joined: May 2019 Location: Massachusetts, USA | Originally Posted by Emulate You locked the thread over some one CLEARLY trolling me saying if I didn't like looking over walls I should control my camera better, then him demanding that you lock my thread over me responding to him in a satirical fashion... And you did it.. I feel like there isn't much hope on these forums for anyone who doesn't fall in line, that's the vibes I'm getting here. I have been posting in this forum since BG3 was announced in February, and I am well-known as a critic of the game for multiple reasons. And yet at no point has any mod on this forum even threatened to shut me up let alone actually do it. I happen to agree with a lot of your criticisms of BG3. But even I find some of the ways you choose to interact with people unlikable. Yes, we critics sometimes get unfairly attacked by some posters here. It's bound to happen. You can politely rebuff them, ignore them, or even flag their posts for the mods. But why give haters any ammunition to try and label you a troll? |
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Joined: Sep 2020 | I mean, you can keep making these posts on these forums, but you can't stop people from dragging you for not understanding basic RPG concepts or video game development practices and downvoting your horrible take on YouTube. I don't want to fall to bits 'cos of excess existential thought. |
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Jazhara202 journeyman Joined: Oct 2020 | Originally Posted by Emulate if you stack your characters on top of each other you can just revive your team mates after they die if you have more team mates than the enemy has you win, how is that a functioning mechanic or even good game design picking your same team mate off the ground 50x in a single fight? it's that how DND works? In 5e how it works is if someone goes down the only way to get them up is through giving them HP in some form, have them drink a potion of healing, spells etc. Help Action in 5e DOES NOT bring people up to 1 hp in tabletop. If people are out of healing, there is a cantrip called Spare the Dying that stabilizes someone from bleeding to death, as well as making a Medicine check or Healing Kit. Last edited by Jazhara202; 21/10/20 08:57 PM. |
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Joined: Oct 2020 | It is your poor attitude that leads to moderation, not poor moderation. Stop being a turd, and you won't get moderated. Is this thing on? |
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Joined: Mar 2020 | I agree with some of your review points, I am however having lots of fun/ I find fight on the easy side except some of the boss fights/ I like the inventory / I like the overall look and feel of the game. Love the sounds and music, and can't wait for next chapters. - The camp resting needs to change . Just finished a battle, surrounded by goblins In the middle of nowhere and hurting, and I decide to cast 'teleport' and go to camp. I rest, see other characters, my dog etc. then I decide to come back to reality, where time has not seem to advanced 1 minute (corps still there etc...). I would prefer finding camp sites here and there and sleeping there. Having a house/bar/pub somewhere on the map to go see my other characters /waiting to get chosen. To balance out the game, since you will be resting less , less spells to use /weaker party, you could lower the monster count. |
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Joined: May 2019 Location: Massachusetts, USA | Originally Posted by jrf773 It is your poor attitude that leads to moderation, not poor moderation. Stop being a turd, and you won't get moderated. Calling people turds should also draw moderator attention. |
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Joined: Jun 2020 | The FOW is a good point; if they'd optionally include a WASD direct control for the over the shoulder camera I'd probably play exploration with that anyways (and switch to something more tactical for the combat, just like NWN 2). That said contrary to yours, I didn't really enjoy DOS/1 overly much (thus so far never played the second part). It was overly goofy with no much compelling overarching plot, clearly designed for co-op above all else, the inventory system was the worst I've seen in ages, the maps were full of unavoidable and oft repeat combat in particular later on (endless waves of Orcs and stuff), and the looting and item system pretty bad (rarely a good idea to give items levels themselves -- everything turned to crap but a couple hours later). Speaking of which, the game was absurdly linear due to all that level gating in general despite pretending to be open. It's curious that it ever won accolades at the RPG Codex of all places to me, but then back then it sort of marked the return of TB combat, so there. This, to me, shapes up to be on a completely different level though, luckily (inventory systems still don't seem Larian's forte though).. Some of that may be helped by D&D (no levels for items, hurray), but heh. The biggest inclines so far are that the game actually IS reasonably open rather than pretending to being so, that they take the narrative some more serious, that here and there there is some amazing environment interactions even of opposition and that the combat encounters overall seem more unique. Itemization/loot is also lots better, handplaced stuff that is reasonably rare, like in some Infinity Engine games. Don't think it will rival the memories I have in particular of playing BG1 in 1999 (still replay it from time to time), but it's overall coming along pretty nicely. Still not the biggest fan of Larian's corridor/theme park kind of compressed map design tho. You guys played and loved Ultima, didn't you? Last edited by Sven_; 21/10/20 10:51 PM. |
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Joined: Oct 2020 | yea, the "corridor themepark" map design is brutal. Once you make it to underdark, you start to feel the pain of "nerfing every spells range in order to appease the tight battle maps they are forcing us into" The Hooked Horor fight is large enough and open enough that the 60ft range felt like crap. On top of everything, the caster is the most likely to be targeted first. So not only did they shave the range down ,the AI is coming for dat ass if you get within 60ft |
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Joined: May 2010 Location: Oxford | Originally Posted by kanisatha Originally Posted by jrf773 It is your poor attitude that leads to moderation, not poor moderation. Stop being a turd, and you won't get moderated. Calling people turds should also draw moderator attention. It will remind me to remind everybody to please be polite. Although poorly-worded, jrf773's assessment is otherwise correct, however. J'aime le fromage. |
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Joined: Jan 2020 | Here is a fight I did today, so I can break it down for people how broken and poor the design mechanics that went into this game actually are, watch until the end or just watch the end... it's unbelievable... It's worse than I remembered. |
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Joined: Feb 2020 Location: Belgium | How do you want us to understand anything in that video ? French Speaking Youtube Channel with a lot of BG3 videos : https://www.youtube.com/c/maximuuus |
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Joined: Jun 2020 | you can only eat 2 lots of food in a fight (each turn) - at least thats all ive been able to)......helping downed characters really isnt much of a tactic (even though its necessary) as they have 1 hp & generally get smacked again in short order. I agree with you re the fog of war - it should have some restrictions. im loving this game ... ps - you think the ogres are bad - wait for the frog in the swamp ! Last edited by Tarorn; 22/10/20 07:35 AM. |
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Joined: Jan 2020 | nothing is bad the ogres are easy watch the video I posted, you can't die in this game because the mechanics are completely broken for consumables and reviving, I have no idea how you enjoy a game that is clearly completetely broken I've played deeper JAVA web browser games. |
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Warlocke veteran Joined: Jan 2018 | Some genuine advice: if you want to be a streamer, which you clearly do, go play games you enjoy and are good at. Nobody wants to watch you play still buggy, just released early access games and whine non-stop. It isn’t interesting content. |
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Joined: Jan 2020 | I don't stream for followers, I stream to bring light to how broken things are in current games and also record some of my clips and shots in fps games, I am a design engineer that works with aerospace start ups so some of my expertise come in handy when working with programming and gaming. Last edited by Emulate; 22/10/20 07:44 AM. |
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Warlocke veteran Joined: Jan 2018 | Originally Posted by Emulate I don't stream for followers, I stream to bring light to how broken things are in current games and also record some of my clips and shots in fps games, I am a design engineer that works with aerospace start ups so some of my expertise come in handy when working with programming and gaming. Nonsense. Nobody who isn’t streaming for followers ends their videos with “please like and subscribe,†so I don’t believe you. Anyway, the game has sold over a million copies in Steam alone and is sitting on an 87% despite being still very buggy, unbalanced, unfinished, with at least a year left in development. Nobody really cares that you don’t like the game and you probably won’t change anybody’s mind. Certainly not here, where most people have played the hell out of the game already and already formed opinions. Good luck to you with that whole playing games you hate schtich. |
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Joined: Mar 2020 | I actually think right now Larian forums is the only place in the internet where you can discuss this game properly. Steam is full of haters and Reddit is full of rabid fans. People here are generally willing to listen and discuss the good and the bad Larian's Biggest Oversight, what to do about it, and My personal review of BG3 EA |
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Warlocke veteran Joined: Jan 2018 | Originally Posted by Abits I actually think right now Larian forums is the only place in the internet where you can discuss this game properly. Steam is full of haters and Reddit is full of rabid fans. People here are generally willing to listen and discuss the good and the bad Sounds about right. Steam is poorly moderated so it gets cluttered with junk and Reddit’s upvote system buries unpopular opinions. |
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Joined: Jul 2014 Location: Italy | Originally Posted by Emulate I did a 30 minute video and have 4 large posts on these forms? I can't even respond to you or the mods are going to lock this again.. Unreal. I actually took the time to watch it yesterday, for the record. And not because the game is without flaws, mind it. Quite the contrary, I have my fair share of gripes about it too. It was a mix of complaining over things I would never agree with or I felt the opposite about of blowing out of proportions minor issues or things we already know are being addressed in future updates, of giving clear proof of a poor understanding of how some mechanics work currently, of sounding in general fairly petulant, nitpicky and anything but constructive, etc. Last edited by Tuco; 22/10/20 08:03 AM. Party control in Baldur's Gate 3 is a complete mess that begs to be addressed. SAY NO TO THE TOILET CHAIN |
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Joined: Mar 2020 | Originally Posted by Warlocke Originally Posted by Abits I actually think right now Larian forums is the only place in the internet where you can discuss this game properly. Steam is full of haters and Reddit is full of rabid fans. People here are generally willing to listen and discuss the good and the bad Sounds about right. Steam is poorly moderated so it gets cluttered with junk and Reddit’s upvote system buries unpopular opinions. Yeah. I think it is also a matter of exposure and popularity. Steam and Reddit has much more users, so it's much harder to regulate what's going on there. Larian's Biggest Oversight, what to do about it, and My personal review of BG3 EA |
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Warlocke veteran Joined: Jan 2018 | Originally Posted by Abits Originally Posted by Warlocke Originally Posted by Abits I actually think right now Larian forums is the only place in the internet where you can discuss this game properly. Steam is full of haters and Reddit is full of rabid fans. People here are generally willing to listen and discuss the good and the bad Sounds about right. Steam is poorly moderated so it gets cluttered with junk and Reddit’s upvote system buries unpopular opinions. Yeah. I think it is also a matter of exposure and popularity. Steam and Reddit has much more users, so it's much harder to regulate what's going on there. Absolutely. I’m actually looking forward to when things slow down here and the surge of new users tapers off. It’s easier to have longer conversations when there is less traffic and threads aren’t getting bumped off the main page so quickly. |
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Joined: Oct 2020 | Originally Posted by Emulate Here is a fight I did today, so I can break it down for people how broken and poor the design mechanics that went into this game actually are, watch until the end or just watch the end... it's unbelievable... It's worse than I remembered. You really wearing the Gloves without the mark of the Absolute? Can't take you serious dude. |
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Joined: Oct 2020 Location: Rugby, UK | Originally Posted by Maikaz You really wearing the Gloves without the mark of the Absolute? Can't take you serious dude. My first character wore those gloves for the first fight after acquiring them, and then realised what was happening. Lucky they aren't like the old-school cursed items that need Remove Curse to unequip. However, doing that privately on the first playthrough and doing it whilst supposedly creating an informative video about the mechanics of the game are two very different things. |
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Drake Duckson stranger Joined: Oct 2020 | Well, we all have opinions which we express on these forums. But to me it seems like you're trying to shove your opinion into our faces, like it's more significant or relevant than everyone's else optinion. With that attitude you may just shove it up your arse and proceed to the next game. |
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Joined: Oct 2020 | Originally Posted by Warlocke Originally Posted by Emulate I don't stream for followers, I stream to bring light to how broken things are in current games and also record some of my clips and shots in fps games, I am a design engineer that works with aerospace start ups so some of my expertise come in handy when working with programming and gaming. Nonsense. Nobody who isn’t streaming for followers ends their videos with “please like and subscribe,†so I don’t believe you. Anyway, the game has sold over a million copies in Steam alone and is sitting on an 87% despite being still very buggy, unbalanced, unfinished, with at least a year left in development. Nobody really cares that you don’t like the game and you probably won’t change anybody’s mind. Certainly not here, where most people have played the hell out of the game already and already formed opinions. Good luck to you with that whole playing games you hate schtich. Yeah, I've thought since I read the first post in this thread that this was just the OP's completely transparent attempt to drive traffic to his YT (and now Twitch) channel. I didn't take the bait but based on your comment I figure I was correct. PS: How full of yourself do you have to be to make a 30 minute rant video? Even stuff that interests me is lucky to get me to watch 10 minutes. Absolutely no way I'm going to watch 30 minutes of complaints. |
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Joined: Oct 2020 Location: Rugby, UK | Originally Posted by Emulate nothing is bad the ogres are easy watch the video I posted, you can't die in this game because the mechanics are completely broken for consumables and reviving, Yes, you can die in the game, even if (unlike you) you know what you are doing. Originally Posted by Emulate I have no idea how you enjoy a game that is clearly completetely broken I've played deeper JAVA web browser games. The game is not broken. I suspect that you know this and are simply trying to raise viewers for your Youtube video because.. well, reasons of your own. I find it hard to believe that someone so crassly ignorant of the game he is playing would seriously try to release a video critiquing that game. My conclusion is therefore that you are using this bizarre and incompetent BG3 review as a means to make a name for yourself. It seems to have worked so far on these forums, but I'm not sure that the image you are projecting is one I would wish to be known for. EDIT: And, Osprey39 gets the same conclusion in just before me. Now I look like a #Metoo, Last edited by Sadurian; 22/10/20 10:01 AM. |
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Joined: Oct 2020 | It's all good Sadurian, great minds think alike and all |
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Joined: Jul 2019 | Originally Posted by OneManArmy You're just scolding early access for the potential best RPG of all time. Provide constructive criticism, not advertise your YouTube channel. Can you briefly say what exactly you don't like? Imho, it has the potential to be a "great" RPG of all time, but probably not "the best" because its combat being turn-based already disappointed players who prefer RTwP, which is used in BG 1 and 2. Last edited by IanTheWizard; 22/10/20 10:34 AM. |
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Sigi98 addict Joined: Oct 2020 | Originally Posted by IanTheWizard Imho, it has the potential to be a "great" RPG of all time, but probably not "the best" because its combat being turn-based already disappointed players who prefer RTwP, which is used in BG 1 and 2. And RTwP would disappoint a lot of other players who prefer turn based. you can't make everyone happy. |
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Joined: May 2020 | I watched (some) of your videos. You make some good points, but your lack of understanding of how 5e works, and really poor combat ability makes your opinion less than helpful. Right from the get go, does it seem like a good idea to enter a building with 3 large ogres? Why not pull them outside where you have more area to move around? Why not position your party on the surrounding rooves and pull with one party member? This being the internet, some will accuse you of being negative for clicks. I will simply say that you don't appear to be very good at the game for the moment. I suggest you learn more about the mechanics and reconsider how you approach combat. I can get the same reaction and uninformed opinion from the average dude on the steam forums. If you are going to make videos, try being more knowledgeable and get some practice before jumping behind the camera. There might be some value in an initial reaction video, but then don't be so negative until you have a better understanding of what's going on. It's one thing to take your viewers along for the ride as you figure it out, but don't pronounce it to be sh*tty before you actually figure it out. There will always be viewers who understand the game better than you, and every single one will call you out on it. |
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Joined: Oct 2020 Location: Australia | To be fair the core game here is great but i agree a lot of the implementation is poor.. I'm not saying its a bad game or i hate it, i just feel a lot of the homebrew ( like skills and missing mechanics like dodge) and micheal bay stuff (barrelmancy and elements everywhere) needs to go, and please please add the monsters back to their default stats and skills.. |
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Vekkares journeyman Joined: Oct 2020 | Originally Posted by Emulate I just had my topic locked at the request of some one trolling me? The moderation on these forums is completely unacceptable. If larian is not capable of accepting criticism on this game it will never succeed. Going to link my video here again so people can see Why I think BG3 sucks currently. https:/ I decided to give the game another shot today after leveling my charcters up and the game is just as bad... makes no difference here is the fight I did today.. it was painfull and I wanted it to end. Good Lord OP, the first 5 minutes of your video is complaining about Fog of War. Your opinion is invalid. |
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Joined: Jan 2020 | I'm wearing the gloves of the absolute because the comabt is to laden with RNG it literially doesn't even matter what gear you have on... how am I the only one who can see this game for what it is? Wearing the gloves vs not wearing the gloves changes almost nothing... its all RNG. Just got through another 3 hour play session almost had fun at one point but I made it to another fight that is so broken and riddled with RNG I'm done, This game in its current iteration is divinity 2 with all the tactics and skill removed from it, ITS WAYYY to dependent on RNG. |
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Joined: Jul 2014 Location: Italy | I mean, those gloves literally give you one of the heaviest debuffs in the game if you use them without being "Marked" in a specific quest. Party control in Baldur's Gate 3 is a complete mess that begs to be addressed. SAY NO TO THE TOILET CHAIN |
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Joined: Jan 2020 | As I said having that debuff doesn't mean a whole lot with the current iteration of the combat system, the RNG is so heavy that Debuff will do almost nothing in the grand scheme of things, The 5e purists should actually do some statistical math on the situation, in a game where the fights are won in the first 2 turns having a Debuff Does ALMOST nothing. The math doesn't lie. Last edited by Emulate; 22/10/20 02:49 PM. |
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Joined: Oct 2020 Location: Rugby, UK | Originally Posted by Emulate As I said having that debuff doesn't mean a whole lot with the current iteration of the combat system, the RNG is so heavy that Debuff will do almost nothing in the grand scheme of things, The 5e purists should actually do some statistical math on the situation, in a game where the fights are won in the first 2 turns having a Debuff Does ALMOST nothing. The math doesn't lie. You are consistent. I'll give you that. Wrong, but consistently so. |
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Joined: Feb 2020 | I think the critique is very valid, although I do not miss the crafting system. Regardless of the fact, that he might not have leveled up. Last edited by Minsc1122; 22/10/20 03:59 PM. |
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Joined: Jun 2020 | The Gloves by their description upon a hit make successful hits up to 20% less likely, plus basically decreases your spell and other resistances by just as much. If you ignored the cirticals for a moment, It could be akin to changing your hit and miss patterns from this one to one more similar to this one(and that's but on the attacking end). Translated to Pillars Of Eternity Deadfire for anybody who's played that's similar to an up to -20 penalty on accuracy (the primary to-hit stat that risese by a measly +3 per level) plus gaining up to a -20 on almost all primary defenses. There's RNG for sure (that's D&D and similar systems) and then there's begging the gods of probability to show some added mercy. Don't have to like that, naturally. Well, at least it's only on the character wearing it. Or isn't it? Last edited by Sven_; 22/10/20 05:10 PM. |
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Joined: Jan 2020 | Again removing the gloves may help a little bit but people seem to be nerding out on OCD level things that don't matter to the points I'm trying to make... I make multiple videos and people seem to get afixiated with things that don't even reflect the issues I'm talking about. It's standardized deflection basically at a political level and its contributing to the dumbing down of humanity. Listen to the points I'm making, don't get worked up over my character level or some sort of Debuff that bothers you more than it does me... I've found things ouside weapons make very little difference in this game when a lot of it comes down to exploiting map mechanics, kiting/routing tactics or just relying on an OP opening chain Aside form those things I mentioned the game play is basically just a Random number festival and I may as well AFK through it because it's not enjoyable skilled or even fun.. Divinity 2 at least had more stability in combat mechanics. I personally feel all my charcters miss more or less equally glove debuff or no glove debuff... Shooting people even in the back doesn't even atribute to a tacitical skill gain in this soulless hollow broken shell of a game. |
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Joined: Mar 2020 | Oh well. I was fooled again. When this started I thought I had the OP pegged as a negative-for-clicks aspiring video game critic who was desperate to monetize his stream and so never really had the time understand the games under review (gotta get that next one uploaded to make those margins). But it's not, this is trolling, no one is this thick. "I can't see" "I've not found a need for light" <insult, insult> "I can't hit" "debuffs don't matter" <insult> Shame on me for being fooled. |
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Joined: Oct 2020 Location: Gamertown USA | So some things... I am glad the OP is tuning the responses so they aren't thread locking. The conversations and points brought up on the game are worth discussing and hearing. My biggest contention is in expecting Early Access to = Release Candidate. This is just a falsity. Early Access is just a marketing term. Literally every broadcast about the state of the game, before any purchase is made, declares this unfinished, full of bugs, etc. So expecting more than a buggy experience is not the best way to approach the purchase into EA. EA is meant to get the die hard feedback people into the action before the product goes gold. To get feedback from the consumers, waaaay before release to the general public. The ONLY reason this games EA is as popular as it is, is due to the timeline for the franchise. BG is a much loved franchise (in a much loved system) and fans of that clamor for new content/products. And they pretty much all have something to add to make the product more to their liking. Ok, so that is done. Now to the meat and potatoes of the OP's feedback and what I am seeing/thinking about it. Most of the bugs are really easy to fix and should be fixed before gold. That is purchase blocking issues. No brainer there. Good for at least getting visibility to them. Suggestions: The other thread is more suggestion based and hits on many of the same heads and themes. Glad they are there, since it definitely highlights a common feature set, every crpg should have. And, you also know why they locked the threads. So winner, winner, posting dinner. |
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Joined: Oct 2020 | Originally Posted by Amnixx I checked out your videos and read your posts..Can only agree with majority opinion..you are either clueless or trolling..... think best to just ignore you. He's not trolling, however he knows nothing of 5e rules. Which I think is his real issue. |
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Warlocke veteran Joined: Jan 2018 | Originally Posted by Mezbarrena Originally Posted by Amnixx I checked out your videos and read your posts..Can only agree with majority opinion..you are either clueless or trolling..... think best to just ignore you. He's not trolling, however he knows nothing of 5e rules. Which I think is his real issue. I also think he is probably being sincere. Annoying, but sincerely annoying. Last edited by Warlocke; 22/10/20 06:55 PM. |
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Joined: Oct 2020 | Originally Posted by Emulate I'm wearing the gloves of the absolute because the comabt is to laden with RNG it literially doesn't even matter what gear you have on... how am I the only one who can see this game for what it is? Wearing the gloves vs not wearing the gloves changes almost nothing... its all RNG. Just got through another 3 hour play session almost had fun at one point but I made it to another fight that is so broken and riddled with RNG I'm done, This game in its current iteration is divinity 2 with all the tactics and skill removed from it, ITS WAYYY to dependent on RNG. Computer game based on table top dice rolling game leans heavily on random numbers!! More at 11. Last edited by Osprey39; 22/10/20 07:18 PM. |
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Joined: Apr 2020 Location: Boston , MA | Your video is convoluted and needs far better organization. Clearly you never really enjoyed the original BG series and want a DOS 3. Bugs and optimization apart, BG3 is far superior to DOS2 in every single aspect. Last edited by IrenicusBG3; 22/10/20 09:32 PM. |
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Joined: Oct 2009 Location: Belgium | Originally Posted by Emulate I just had my topic locked at the request of some one trolling me? The moderation on these forums is completely unacceptable. If larian is not capable of accepting criticism on this game it will never succeed. Going to link my video here again so people can see Why I think BG3 sucks currently. https:/ I decided to give the game another shot today after leveling my charcters up and the game is just as bad... makes no difference here is the fight I did today.. it was painfull and I wanted it to end. The reason your stuff is being locked down is not because you're giving criticism or feedback, the reason they're being locked down is exactly because of your title and wording here. The point here is: you're being presented a very rough and unstable beta version of only a small fraction of a game with only a small fraction of the features (classes, etc.) and an initial version of all systems ... none of those are final or conclusive. No one promised you otherwise, Larian, Steam and GoG were in the contrary actually VERY super clear about this, no fine print, all highlighted. Next time just don't buy a product that is literally being super highlighted as unfinished and being literally declared as intended for a public testing for feedback, if you don't want exactly that, no matter the price. It's that simple. Last edited by Genky; 22/10/20 10:20 PM. |
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trengilly member Joined: Oct 2020 | Originally Posted by Emulate I'm wearing the gloves of the absolute because the combat is too laden with RNG. There is a lot of RNG in D&D 5e. But RNG isn't bad . . . and your play should be to maximize your odds. And yes EVERY point of bonus is impactful. You bring up Divinity Original Sin 2 which had very little RNG but I feel this was a huge flaw in the game. Larian went out of their way to remove RNG in DoS2 (as opposed to DoS1) If you don't like RNG then you aren't going to like Baldur's Gate 3. The combat in DoS1 was far superior. Actually DoS1 was a superior game to DoS2 in nearly all aspects but that's another argument! |
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Joined: Sep 2020 | Y'all, stop feeding the desperate social media troll. It's so painfully obvious that he knows that he can't create engaging content that'll get honest views, so he's going to be that ridiculously over-critical guy who tries to sh*t on things because he doesn't understand how they work. You can't claim that you don't care if anyone follows you because you're just trying to shine light on "broken things" but still shamelessly ask people to click that notification bell and subscribe at the end of every video. I don't want to fall to bits 'cos of excess existential thought. |
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Joined: Jan 2020 | I'm a social media troll with 2 video uploads on my account... Makes sense. if your go to is to attack me and say I'm trolling when virtually every point I made is an acceptable critique of the game, you in fact are the troll. First of all people saying I don't like this game because it's 5e and RNG are partially correct, but the thing you also have to consider being a so called "purest" is that this game doesn't play in the slightest like BG1 or BG2 so I don't understand how you can fanboy over a combat system I'm not even a fanboy of D2 I acknowledge it has its own set of people many even carried over into this game, if your only defense is to attack me being a troll you simply fail hard like the game you are trying to defend... the game sucks, we all know it, its time for them to fix it, and if they actually decide to redo the game from the bottom up which I doubt is likely, this game is YEARS away from being released at least 2-3, sadly I think they are going to slap it togeather and rush it out the door then try to patch it later to a state where its some what tollerable.... Last edited by Emulate; 26/10/20 05:27 PM. |
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Joined: Oct 2020 | nobody cares why you think it sucks. we have plenty of problems.. offer solutions and end it. You basically reviewing a game that is 5% done. I dont think is sucks at all .. its plenty fun and im glad to play what they let us to get a sneak peak.. im sure im not the only one. If you think this game is so bad go play something else.. we dont care Last edited by Nabbs; 26/10/20 05:32 PM. Reason: added stuff cause OP thinks we all feel the same 63% of all statistics are completely made up ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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Joined: Oct 2020 Location: Rugby, UK | I don't think you're a troll. I disagree with just about everything you have posted here. I think you are very wrong in what you say or the suggestions behind what you are saying (people shouldn't like BG3's combat because it doesn't play like BG2?, really?), wrong to release a video slamming a game you clearly don't understand, wrong to use the tone and language that you have, and wrong in most of the suppositions about people who disagree with you. But no, I don't think you're a troll. |
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Joined: Jan 2020 | I offered solutions, i suggest watching my video or reading what I wrote but this time actually allowing your self to listen to the things that I said. |
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Joined: Oct 2020 Location: Netherlands | Originally Posted by Emulate I'm a social media troll with 2 video uploads on my account... Makes sense. Yup. Pretty much. If you genuinely took the effort to start your Youtube channel to produce this whinefest... Yeah, I'd too label you an aspiring professional troll. By all means, I do not see your objection to this? Quote The game sucks, we all know it, its time for them to fix it It's in Early Access, at least a year from completion. That's all we know. What we think of it, differs, even among those that like, and dislike it. They *are* fixing it. If it's still not for you a year from now, then... Go and play something else. Last edited by rodeolifant; 26/10/20 05:54 PM. Fear my wrath, for it is great indeed. |
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Joined: Oct 2020 Location: Rugby, UK | Originally Posted by Emulate I offered solutions, i suggest watching my video or reading what I wrote but this time actually allowing your self to listen to the things that I said. I am not interested in increasing the traffic to your video by watching it. Your comments and attitude here show what sort of thing I could expect there. No, I have better things to do than increase your little video's standing. Nothing you have said on these forums can be said to be constructive criticism, just complaints and abuse. If you want to be known as a critic then learn how to critique before getting a name for yourself as someone not worth listening to. I would also learn how to play the game rather than dismissing the rules as being 'irrelevant' and then wondering why it's not all working for you. Look back at that stream of consciousness you posted just upthread. Lot of words but nothing constructive to say. Also, very badly written to the point of being almost indecipherable in places. I'm not talking typos here (we all produce those), but your lack of basic grammar makes the whole thing hard to read. This is not a good idea if you want people to read it. If your video presentation is anything like your written presentation, I can fully understand why people are saying that they struggle to watch it. |
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Warlocke veteran Joined: Jan 2018 | You aren’t missing much by not watching the videos. The guy mostly just says “this sucks†a lot. He is also hilariously bad at playing it. Not just bad in terms of not understanding tactics, but he will do things like say “I don’t understand how this works,†while he literally at the same time has the tooltip open, but he doesn’t read it. He also didn’t know how to level up characters despite the game pausing itself to give you a tutorial on leveling when you hit level 2. And he calls people who like the game “casuals.†It’s best to ignore this guy. If you look back in his posting history you can see that he has been saying this game sucks since well before it released. He thrives off of conflict and animosity, so while his opinions on the game are probably genuine, he is still very much a troll. |
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Joined: Oct 2020 | Originally Posted by Emulate nothing is bad the ogres are easy watch the video I posted, you can't die in this game because the mechanics are completely broken for consumables and reviving, I have no idea how you enjoy a game that is clearly completetely broken I've played deeper JAVA web browser games. > You can't die in this game dude.. my guy.. bro...... Larian literally has a map of ALL THE DEATHS so far people have experienced. Which is to say: a lot. https:/ it sounds to me like somehow your gameplay specifically is broken, because no one can or has been able to play the way you have been playing, clearly, because we all unanimously think you're absolutely bonkers except for ONE thing re: fog of war. also lol way to go wearing the "Get Bane On Yourself Every Encounter" gloves without first being branded by the priestess. yes, I realize there's like 5 pages on this thing but I had a migraine for 4 days, cut me some slack Editing because I finished reading all of it and BOY HOWDY. Originally Posted by Emulate First of all people saying I don't like this game because it's 5e and RNG are partially correct, but the thing you also have to consider being a so called "purest" is that this game doesn't play in the slightest like BG1 or BG2 so I don't understand how you can fanboy over a combat system Do you still not realize that literally no one else has been able to replicate your combat experience? Your experience is not universal, this is why no one is taking you seriously. The rest of us either breeze through without many character deaths per encounter because we found a tactic/party make-up that works for us or we die once or twice (or a party member does) and we leave them there to be revivified later because using the Help action only raises them to 1 HP and the enemy AI still overwhelmingly targets low HP and/or already downed characters to make sure they STAY down. Chain actioning Help to get a character up does not bring them up on their turn, it only does if you're consistently lucky with your initiative order and then and only then can you pot their health because they immediately had a turn and no enemies had a chance to hit them again. Originally Posted by Emulate ALSO if you're a 5e pureist how do you even stomach playing a game where you can see through walls and gost arround the map viewing combat senarios multiple rooms over... that seems like an epic case of you have no idea what a good game even is. I understand if you are new to PC gaming and look at this game as somehting shiny and special... But you have to consider that many of use are older and have been playing games for decades... and not one of those games of the past that were good allowed you to forgo even having to explore the world... Its bad, the bad combat can be adjusted or tollerated I suppose playing coop. Seriously? You're going that route? You're going with "A lot of us are older and our Standards Are Higher because we've played Real Games"? Your opinion is irrelevant. I'm 26 and I have played plenty of good, and by extension bad, games in my life. And you know what? I have never before seen someone go as hard at tearing a game down and railing about how much it sucks while simultaneously failing to grasp how anything actually works, or at least failing to understand/acknowledge that maybe your experience is skewed more into the "buggy" territory, especially after so many people have told you that they don't, have not, and can't seem to replicate your particular combat experiences at all. This hill you've chosen to die on that You're the Only One Whose Right and the rest of us are just simps for a BG game "no matter how bad it is" is a really, really weird hill, man. Last edited by Milani; 26/10/20 09:08 PM. Reason: I caught up. |
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Joined: Oct 2020 | Originally Posted by Warlocke And he calls people who like the game “casuals.†Seriously? Yeah, I pretty much ignore anyone that uses that term as a noun, especially when they use it as a pejorative. |
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Joined: Oct 2020 | Per usual, it'd be a lot easier to stomach the video without the whole '' I am right '' tone instead of just suggestions and ideas. |
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